Hi everyone, this is the first thread for the Vi DAC. Please post thoughts, comments, questions, screenshots, etc. in here. We will be attending to these forums now instead of the IGG pages due to ease of use for both LHL and backers.
Same rules as before: professional-esque discussion over the campaign and LHL is welcome. Personal attacks will not be tolerated and will be deleted. Profanity: try to keep it PG, please.
There is no "quote" function on the forum but I am working with Freshdesk support to see if there is a workaround. But this will be infinitely better than the old system at IGG where there was no ability to edit posts, a character count, no way to post screens, etc.
We look forward to hearing from you around the forums!
I posted this 2 months ago but it apparently didn't go through so I am posting again...
I think that is going to be hard to do Robert. Consider the following taken directly off Indiegogo:
Campaign Backers when campaign closed % Funded
Geek Wave: ~9600 $1,665,254 3478% on July 13, 2014
Geek Wave #2: ~800 $190,000 148% of $128,000
Geek Pulse DAC: ~13,400 $3,001,353 3089% on Dec 28, 2013
Geek Pulse #2: ~550 $103,527 20705% of $500 fixed goal
Pulse Analog: ~260 $93,966 1649% on Oct 1, 2015
Vi DAC: ~1150 $283,406 2852% on March 16, 2015
Total Reported funds contributed: $5,629,225
These numbers may not reflect all of the perks, direct invoices, etc. which may have taken place after the campaigns closed. Even with overlap, that’s 20,000+ backers from all over the world. I have a hard time believing that ~20k backers contributing ~5.6M are going to let all this just go.
I agree with you about these products becoming “legacy”. I am fortunate in that I have the ability to move on (and I have, substituting new products which I have purchased to take the place of these “potential products” which may or may not ever show up). But while you and I may be able to tap out and take the loss as a poor investment opportunity, hard to imagine that many others will feel the same…again, nor should they.
I think if the communication were better and consisted of something other than teases like the September 5, 2018 update (noted above by John Siegel):
“We have the new Vi chassis design ready…we will post the photo of the new chassis once we receive it. It should be in three weeks.”
Promise unkept. Rather than update again on Sept 26 letting people know what’s happening, nothing happens.
In the last year regarding just Vi DAC, there have been 7 updates, and many updates address the chassis or Mr. Ho’s world travels. All tease, no meat, irregularly irregular positive reinforcement (the most addictive kind, just like gambling). When you click on the campaign Facebook links for Mr. Ho, you get https://www.facebook.com/app_scoped_user_id/660315531/ which no longer exists. Same for https://www.facebook.com/app_scoped_user_id/110875392609110/ . There is a twitter (https://twitter.com/geekbylhlabs) who’s last meaningful post was from Feb of 2017. Talk about a ruined reputation.
(note: extra part deleted for encouragement of harassment towards journalists and LHL employees and associates)
(second note: second deletion. discussion of legal action towards LHL is not permitted on this site)
@Frederick who was manning the booth and why was there no music source? On another note, Larry wasn't there super long at the show. He had just left before you arrived. He stayed in Japan for 48 hours and caught a flight to Beijing for a Tesla Audio meeting with an electric car manufacturer.
EDIT: The Source that had the music on it was taken by Larry, and I guess the vendor didn't have any music readily available to play.
On a side note, Larry said two attendees cried when they heard the Asteria and told him it was the best sound they had ever heard (in an IEM, I imagine).
Were any prices listed for the Asteria? Did you get any shots of the pamphlet?
Here are some shots I got from Larry today from the show.
@ Frederick thanks!
Thanks for the pictures and short review.
Can you tell us what was your impressions of the set?
Sound qualiy of the Vi DACs and how the Source behave?
I asked Larry why the vendor would be showing our gear to presumably sell with no way to demonstrate it. He didn't know about the situation since it happened after he left. That's extremely perplexing. How many people were at the booth when you were there? Did you speak to the vendor at all?
Thanks for uploading that. If someone can do a translate on that, it'd be great. I do think the Asteria is pretty sharp looking. That's extremely odd that he would bring a Source and have zero way of playing it. I'll mention it to Larry again.
@Frederick I'm a little confused. So the Vi Tube wasn't hooked up to anything? And the Vi SS was hooked up to a Source but the Source couldn't be used. Was the visitor at the booth listening to his own portable player with Asteria with no involvement from the Vi Tube?