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Vi DAC Chatter

Hi everyone, this is the first thread for the Vi DAC. Please post thoughts, comments, questions, screenshots, etc. in here. We will be attending to these forums now instead of the IGG pages due to ease of use for both LHL and backers. 

Same rules as before: professional-esque discussion over the campaign and LHL is welcome. Personal attacks will not be tolerated and will be deleted. Profanity: try to keep it PG, please. 

There is no "quote" function on the forum but I am working with Freshdesk support to see if there is a workaround. But this will be infinitely better than the old system at IGG where there was no ability to edit posts, a character count, no way to post screens, etc. 

We look forward to hearing from you around the forums! 

- Jarek

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I posted this 2 months ago but it apparently didn't go through so I am posting again...

I think that is going to be hard to do Robert. Consider the following taken directly off Indiegogo:


                                                                        Funds collected

Campaign                         Backers               when campaign closed                 % Funded


Geek Wave:                     ~9600                  $1,665,254                                     3478% on July 13, 2014

Geek Wave #2:                ~800                    $190,000                                         148% of $128,000

Geek Pulse DAC:             ~13,400              $3,001,353                                     3089% on Dec 28, 2013

Geek Pulse #2:                 ~550                    $103,527                                         20705% of $500 fixed goal

Pulse Analog:                   ~260                    $93,966                                           1649% on Oct 1, 2015

Vi DAC:                              ~1150                  $283,406                                        2852% on March 16, 2015


Total Reported funds contributed: $5,629,225


These numbers may not reflect all of the perks, direct invoices, etc. which may have taken place after the campaigns closed. Even with overlap, that’s 20,000+ backers from all over the world. I have a hard time believing that ~20k backers contributing ~5.6M are going to let all this just go. 


I agree with you about these products becoming “legacy”. I am fortunate in that I have the ability to move on (and I have, substituting new products which I have purchased to take the place of these “potential products” which may or may not ever show up). But while you and I may be able to tap out and take the loss as a poor investment opportunity, hard to imagine that many others will feel the same…again, nor should they.


I think if the communication were better and consisted of something other than teases like the September 5, 2018 update (noted above by John Siegel):


“We have the new Vi chassis design ready…we will post the photo of the new chassis once we receive it. It should be in three weeks.”


Promise unkept. Rather than update again on Sept 26 letting people know what’s happening, nothing happens.


In the last year regarding just Vi DAC, there have been 7 updates, and many updates address the chassis or Mr. Ho’s world travels. All tease, no meat, irregularly irregular positive reinforcement (the most addictive kind, just like gambling). When you click on the campaign Facebook links for Mr. Ho, you get which no longer exists. Same for . There is a twitter ( who’s last meaningful post was from Feb of 2017. Talk about a ruined reputation. 

(note: extra part deleted for encouragement of harassment towards journalists and LHL employees and associates)

(second note: second deletion. discussion of legal action towards LHL is not permitted on this site)

Safe to say the new chassis prototype was not finished by the first week of June as anticipated?

It's now just a few days from July, what happened to the prototype?

I agree--overdue for an update.

It's obvious.  Short on all resources, cash, people, etc.!  Still, we wait, expectantly.  What's the definition of insanity?

Has anyone received their Vi Tube DAC SE?

I believe they are being dispatched individually, by specially trained flying pig.

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Big question is : Have they made any after the supposed 2nd machining vendor failed?

We never heard what happened to the slow first vendor, nor the not perfect chassis.

seems like they could ship something every month and reduce the backlog

Well, 50% has shipped before June & 7 units more in June, yet I still have not heard anyone confirm receipt of a source SE. Fact is that Most of SE backers are among the most active on forums. This is why I have a hard time believing the numbers. We have been given ‘firm timelines’ of few times yet I still have empty hands.

This is the Vi Dac thread, not the Source thread, but the symptoms are the same...little to no progress!  All I want is what I paid for, no more, no less, then I'll quietly fade into t he sunset.  Four years has been more than sufficient time.

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Sorry, you are right! And I am experiencing the same symptoms with both campaigns, and the wave campaign and not to mention the hpa wich now seems a decade away from production. They should pick a campaign and finish it and then move to the next one. They should stop juggling all the campaigns.

I am on the same page as you Matthijs.  Waiting on a Vi Tube DAC SE, a Source SE and three Waves.

@Customer Service

Hi, any news on the ViDAC chassis? 

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Two Months since update.  Indiegogo requires monthly updates.  any true business has production plan and parts on order to meet that plan.  Why No plan?

The way I see it, Larry is otherwise occupied and there is little communication between him and the dude who normally monitors this forum. No reports means that nothing much has changed. It appears that when Larry runs into delays he is VERY reluctant to report them.

11 days ago we got this status report - have any of the 7 been assembled?

LH Labs
Campaigner 11 days ago


We should be getting 7 more (original) chassis in next week to ship out.

The new chassis design looks beautiful.  I had a few misgivings from the first artist's rendering but this looks terrific.  The front bevels pay a little homage to the original design and it looks modern and fresh. Tube holes TBD,  but I feel this could finally put the chassis issue to rest.   Will await the pics of the prototypes.

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